Any ideads on a first aid kit? Just something to think of. Any suggestions of items that would be worth having? Might not be worth the hassle? Also might be worth anyone with CPR training to post it up so we know. I haven't redone mine since the military and need to go again. Might be a good thing for a group to go to? Also might be a good idea to have a ribbon (something to indicate) on bikes of those with CPR training so we know who is certified if we need them?

I'm not certified, but I have to do the training every year.

Same here Roger, i was certified years ago, but new standards are similar to the old. Main precaution is with the clearing of airway in case there is a neck injury. Hand on forehead and lift chin up, then clear mouth/airway.
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Here's the latest advice from the American Heart Association:

* Untrained. If you're not trained in CPR, then provide hands-only CPR. That means uninterrupted chest presses of about two per second until paramedics arrive (described in more detail below). You don't need to try rescue breathing.
* Trained, and ready to go. If you're well trained, and confident in your ability, then you can opt for one of two approaches: 1. Alternate between 30 chest compressions and two rescue breaths, or 2. Just do chest compressions. (Details described below.)
* Trained, but rusty. If you've previously received CPR training, but you're not confident in your abilities, then it's fine to do just chest compressions.

The above advice applies only to adults needing CPR, not to children.

CPR can keep oxygenated blood flowing to the brain and other vital organs until more definitive medical treatment can restore a normal heart rhythm.

When the heart stops, the absence of oxygenated blood can cause irreparable brain damage in only a few minutes. Death will occur within eight to 10 minutes. Time is critical when you're helping an unconscious person who isn't breathing.

To learn CPR properly, take an accredited first-aid training course, including CPR and how to use an automatic external defibrillator (AED).

Before you begin
Assess the situation before starting CPR:

* Is the person conscious or unconscious?
* If the person appears unconscious, tap or shake his or her shoulder and ask loudly, "Are you OK?"
* If the person doesn't respond and two people are available, one should call 911 or the local emergency number and one should begin CPR. If you are alone and have immediate access to a telephone, call 911 before beginning CPR — unless you think the person has become unresponsive because of suffocation (such as from drowning). In this special case, begin CPR for one minute and then call 911.
* If an AED is immediately available, deliver one shock if advised by the device, then begin CPR.

Remember the ABCs
Think ABC — Airway, Breathing and Circulation — to remember the steps explained below. Move quickly through Airway and Breathing to begin chest compressions to restore circulation.

AIRWAY: Clear the airway

1. Put the person on his or her back on a firm surface.
2. Kneel next to the person's neck and shoulders.
3. Open the person's airway using the head-tilt, chin-lift maneuver. Put your palm on the person's forehead and gently tilt the head back. Then with the other hand, gently lift the chin forward to open the airway.
4. Check for normal breathing, taking no more than five or 10 seconds: Look for chest motion, listen for breath sounds, and feel for the person's breath on your cheek and ear. Gasping is not considered to be normal breathing. If the person isn't breathing normally and you are trained in CPR, begin mouth-to-mouth breathing. If you believe the person is unconscious from a heart attack and you haven't been trained in emergency procedures, skip mouth-to-mouth rescue breathing and proceed directly to chest compressions to restore circulation.

BREATHING: Breathe for the person
Rescue breathing can be mouth-to-mouth breathing or mouth-to-nose breathing if the mouth is seriously injured or can't be opened.

1. With the airway open (using the head-tilt, chin-lift maneuver) pinch the nostrils shut for mouth-to-mouth breathing and cover the person's mouth with yours, making a seal.
2. Prepare to give two rescue breaths. Give the first rescue breath — lasting one second — and watch to see if the chest rises. If it does rise, give the second breath. If the chest doesn't rise, repeat the head-tilt, chin-lift maneuver and then give the second breath.
3. Begin chest compressions to restore circulation.

CIRCULATION: Restore blood circulation with chest compressions

1. Place the heel of one hand over the center of the person's chest, between the nipples. Place your other hand on top of the first hand. Keep your elbows straight and position your shoulders directly above your hands.
2. Use your upper body weight (not just your arms) as you push straight down on (compress) the chest 2 inches (approximately 5 centimeters). Push hard and push fast — give two compressions per second, or about 120 compressions per minute.
3. After 30 compressions, tilt the head back and lift the chin up to open the airway. Prepare to give two rescue breaths. Pinch the nose shut and breathe into the mouth for one second. If the chest rises, give a second rescue breath. If the chest doesn't rise, repeat the head-tilt, chin-lift maneuver and then give the second rescue breath. That's one cycle. If someone else is available, ask that person to give two breaths after you do 30 compressions.
4. If the person has not begun moving after five cycles (about two minutes) and an automatic external defibrillator (AED) is available, apply it and follow the prompts. The American Heart Association recommends administering one shock, then resuming CPR — starting with chest compressions — for two more minutes before administering a second shock. If you're not trained to use an AED, a 911 operator may be able to guide you in its use. Trained staff at many public places are also able to provide and use an AED. Use pediatric pads, if available, for children ages 1 to 8. Do not use an AED for infants younger than age 1. If an AED isn't available, go to No. 5 below.
5. Continue CPR until there are signs of movement or until emergency medical personnel take over.

To perform CPR on a child GO TO THE LINK.

I am a trained/certified first responder, as well a safety manager in construction. Dependant upon your line of work there are certain specifications for first aid kits just to be sold and labeled as "First Aid Kits". If anyone is interested, I can do a class...for our group, I would do it for free...(almost)...would need to rent the manikens and some supplies so dependant upon anyone seriously interested it would be minimal costs for supplies.

OSHA Approved First Aid Kits And OSHA First Aid Kit Requirements
29 CFR 1910.151 and Summary of ANSI Z308.1-2003
The 1998 revision of first aid regulation, 29 CFR 1910-151 states, "in the absence of an infirmary, clinic, or hospital in near proximity
to the workplace which is used for the treatment of all injured employees, a person or persons shall be adequately trained to
render first aid. Adequate first aid supplies shall be readily available." The revised regulation eliminated the statement, ". . . first
aid supplies approved by the consulting physician shall be readily available."
'Appendix A' which is a non-mandatory guideline provides an example of the minimal contents of generic first aid kits according to
the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) Z308.1-1978. The first aid kit contents listed in Z308.1-1978 should be adequate
for small work sites. The employer is responsible for determining the need for additional first-aid supplies, OSHA first aid kits,
quantities and the types of supplies at the work site for large/larger work sites.
*Note: Since Appendix A was added, ANSI has updated Z308.1-1978 ( "Minimum Requirements for Industrial Unit-type First-aid
Kits") to the 2003 standard. OSHA has not yet revised Appendix A to reference the updated ANSI Z308.1-2003 standard.
The main difference between the old standard and the new standard is that the new 2003 ANSI standard has expanded the list
of recommended first aid kit supplies to include; analgesics, burn dressings, cold packs, antibiotic treatments and CPR barriers. It also
takes into account all types of packaging of first aid products and containers for use indoors and outdoors in both mobile and stationary
settings. The kits that comply with this standard are meant to provide a basic range of products that deal with the majority of
injuries encountered in the workplace including major wounds, minor burns, and eye injuries.
Under Z308.1-2003, the new ANSI standard states that approved first aid kits are divided into three different categories
or classifications. First aid kits must also meet the performance and testing requirements set by the standard.
Type I: Intended for use in stationary, indoor applications where kit contents have minimal potential for damage. These first aid kits
are not intended to be portable and should have a means for mounting in a fixed position. Some applications for Type I first-aid
kits are: general indoor use, office use or in a light manufacturing facility. First aid cabinets would fall in this classification.
Type II: Intended for use in portable indoor applications. First aid kit contents should have minimal potential for damage.
These approved first aid kits should be equipped with carrying handle(s). Some applications for Type II first-aid kits are general
indoor use, office or manufacturing environments.
Type III: Intended for portable use in mobile industries and/or outdoor applications. Kits should be moisture resistant, equipped with
a carrying handle, have the means for being mounted in a fixed position, and should also be corrosion resistant. Type III kits must
meet specific performance requirements. (Please see Section 4.4.1 of ANSI Z308.1-2003 for testing requirements).
Typical applications for Type III first aid kits would be the transportation industry or construction jobs.

Sounds good to me, would be a good thing for us to learn before its not just knee scraper and we could save a life. I also have grand kids, swimming pool and most of my firends, my age, are getting old. I might have to save their broken ass soon. Maybe Tyne or Will could get a date and we could see how many show up. Would be happy to donate some $ to help out with the dummies.

Rob get with me via email and tell me what the rental cost will be. I think this is a great idea and we should move forward with it.

I saw this was a really old post, but if people are interested, Desert Fire in tucson is a good place to get your first aid/cpr certs, the girl who usually teaches it knocks it out in a few hours instead of being boring and repeating herself 1000x. If i remember right it is about $40 to take the class.

She also does group trainings and such, so if people are interested I could give her a call and organize something, but definitely knowing if you have anyone with cpr/first aid or medical background in the group is a great idea.